Because if two are arguing and both have false premises, that discussion can be categorize as false, and with the developments and results from it.
This is world wide. Happens in all nations, struggling or not, with state of her own or within a state. It happens within the peoples and within the different ideological sections of the nations. No wonder we live in an era of extreme ambiguity, shallowness and inconsistency. Tasteless, identitiless, ugly and annoying is the least of the results. Obedience, submission, lack of fighting or misguided one, resulting this in many faults and with a danger in the long term and sometimes resulting in the adverse effects. All this is not casual. Very few things are and the general development in politics, socioeconomics none.
We have to educate ourselves, we have to try to educate others, to have to agitate, ideologically to begin with. To create real controversies built in real premises. And keep the track.
There is a real educational need and first of all we have to denounce false crisis, false discussions with false premises.
To put and Irish example:
the dichotomy Collins-De Valera. Many people see it as real. No doubt the film Michael Collins did great damage in the conscience of many. Film industry, a great tool of the Murder Machine.
Is false. Both were basically the same. History proved. But before continuing...
Rivalry is not opposition, like reform is not revolution, and fight is not the same as bargain. All having in mind that some people use really radical language and some strong methods to bargain. This is people extremely dangerous as history had proved. They are the worst enemy, because the damage immensely the real people that is fighting the real fighting, the liberating one. To use a communist expression: extreme-leftists that at the end really gain little or nothing most of the cases, help the enemies cause and in so many cases they end with them, near them or in a nice position of 'I am above all' because a did a couple of things, more bombastic than effective by the way and i have a really radical speech. The system knows. They know who to allow a radical speech and when.
The Collins-De Valera meant that the system had the two horses in the race and so many people believing otherwise. And believing it in the right time and moment, that is crucial. Collins died. Them the possibility of making him a martyr... of? The anti-republican and anti irish treaty. But here we are that, in the Net and the real world so many republicans have Collins in great respect, even close to have him as a republican hero. A win for the very system that repress real republicans. De Valera in the other hand. Cheated many and became the socall leader of the antiTreaty or Republican camp. Then...little to say of the years under his rule. An antiRepublican and repressor regime. A lot catholic but little Irish. Not true? Then why the republican sentiment diminish in the years of his rule? Plenty of photos with the bishops, foreign presidents and popes but the Irish language on the edge of extinction to put an example. Again a win for system, the brits and their native allies, the good catholics. Some to make the joke talk of him as crypto-jew. And what?, Catholic, crytojew or jew a fascist, anti republican and anti irish individual and that IS the important thing. Under his regime the Church was able to carry the despicable and disgusting mass crimes against the Irish People with impunity. Specially the treatment of orphans and poor kids. When you do that or allow that you just can't say that you like them. What to say about the baby mass graves, the laundries and so many other situations and crimes?
Not Collins, nor De Valera were Republicans. One became a traitor first then the other.
The choice is not between them. The real choice is Collins-De Valera or Brugha-Mellows.
And are many more like this, nationally and internationally. But within the Irish Nation, particulary in the Irish history of the Republican Movement. To name a perfect example, the cases expose by the great Ruairí Ó Brádaigh in 1986. And more closer in time, even recent.
We have to educate ourselves, we have to try to educate others, to have to agitate, ideologically to begin with. To create real controversies built in real premises. And keep the track.
There is a real educational need and first of all we have to denounce false crisis, false discussions with false premises.
To put and Irish example:
the dichotomy Collins-De Valera. Many people see it as real. No doubt the film Michael Collins did great damage in the conscience of many. Film industry, a great tool of the Murder Machine.
Is false. Both were basically the same. History proved. But before continuing...
Rivalry is not opposition, like reform is not revolution, and fight is not the same as bargain. All having in mind that some people use really radical language and some strong methods to bargain. This is people extremely dangerous as history had proved. They are the worst enemy, because the damage immensely the real people that is fighting the real fighting, the liberating one. To use a communist expression: extreme-leftists that at the end really gain little or nothing most of the cases, help the enemies cause and in so many cases they end with them, near them or in a nice position of 'I am above all' because a did a couple of things, more bombastic than effective by the way and i have a really radical speech. The system knows. They know who to allow a radical speech and when.
The Collins-De Valera meant that the system had the two horses in the race and so many people believing otherwise. And believing it in the right time and moment, that is crucial. Collins died. Them the possibility of making him a martyr... of? The anti-republican and anti irish treaty. But here we are that, in the Net and the real world so many republicans have Collins in great respect, even close to have him as a republican hero. A win for the very system that repress real republicans. De Valera in the other hand. Cheated many and became the socall leader of the antiTreaty or Republican camp. Then...little to say of the years under his rule. An antiRepublican and repressor regime. A lot catholic but little Irish. Not true? Then why the republican sentiment diminish in the years of his rule? Plenty of photos with the bishops, foreign presidents and popes but the Irish language on the edge of extinction to put an example. Again a win for system, the brits and their native allies, the good catholics. Some to make the joke talk of him as crypto-jew. And what?, Catholic, crytojew or jew a fascist, anti republican and anti irish individual and that IS the important thing. Under his regime the Church was able to carry the despicable and disgusting mass crimes against the Irish People with impunity. Specially the treatment of orphans and poor kids. When you do that or allow that you just can't say that you like them. What to say about the baby mass graves, the laundries and so many other situations and crimes?
Not Collins, nor De Valera were Republicans. One became a traitor first then the other.
The choice is not between them. The real choice is Collins-De Valera or Brugha-Mellows.
And are many more like this, nationally and internationally. But within the Irish Nation, particulary in the Irish history of the Republican Movement. To name a perfect example, the cases expose by the great Ruairí Ó Brádaigh in 1986. And more closer in time, even recent.
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